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March 16, 2013

Good News! House Shoots Down E-cigarette Tax

Here's some really good news for vapers! A Utah bill that would have taxed e-cigarettes at an insane rate of 86%, and banned Internet sales of nicotine-containing products (by requiring face-to-face transactions), has been shot down in the House. The bill failed with a 29-44 vote. Awesome!

The bill, HB372, was proposed by Rep. Paul Ray, who "claims" to want to prevent youth from using candy-like cigarettes by making it a Class C misdemeanor for tobacco shops to allow anyone under the age of 19 to enter their stores.

Oh yeah, the bill would have also required e-cigarettes to be sold in locked cabinets behind the counter. What a joke!

House lawmakers reject e-cigarette and tobacco products tax

"E-cigarettes are illegal to those 19 and under,” Ray said. “But recently a Utah high school high took 200 e-cigarettes from their students. Somewhere many kids are getting those."

Rep. Paul Ray's Biggest Donors Are Big Pharma?

According to Project Vote Smart, some of Rep. Paul Ray's biggest donors are Big Pharma. Wow, BIG surprise there. I guess that explains the following nonsense spewed forth from his mouth...

Utah moves to tax e-cigarettes like regular smokes

The Utah measure's sponsor, Republican Rep. Paul Ray, says e-cigarettes should not be considered healthy.

"They're trying to sell them as nicotine replacement therapy. It is not," Ray said this week. "It is not an FDA-approved nicotine replacement therapy. There's medications, there's patches, there's things for that. This is not one of them."

NEWSFLASH, Ray Paul: Those so-called "medications" aren't all that safe, IMHO. Hell, just take a second to read all the nasty side effects. For example...

Chantix Side Effects: hostility, suicidal thoughts or suicidal actions, aggression, anger, mania, hallucinations, paranoia, confusion, vomiting, constipation, sleep problems...the list goes on.

Um yeah, I don't want ANY of those, thank you very much.

Directly from the CHANTIX Website:

"Some people can have serious skin reactions while taking CHANTIX, some of which can become life-threatening...Some people can have allergic reactions to CHANTIX, some of which can be life-threatening and include: swelling of the face, mouth, and throat that can cause trouble breathing."

And yeah, like the FDA really has anything to do with things being real "healthy" anymore. That ship totally sailed when they allowed "Natural Flavoring" to include things that aren't really natural at all. Crushed beaver anal sacs, anyone?! Just Google "castoreum" and you'll likely be sadly surprised. Things that are hydrolyzed and/or emulsified are also OK as "natural" according to the FDA.

So while "FDA approved" does carry some important weight, it certainly doesn't guarantee that a product is totally safe or "healthy".

Ray Paul Claims 200 E-cigarettes Were Confiscated?

 "...But recently a Utah high school high took 200 e-cigarettes from their students. Somewhere many kids are getting those."

Funny! Funny, because just a week earlier, when the bill was first proposed, Ray apparently claimed that 100 e-cigarettes were confiscated, not 200. So, either they confiscated an amazing 100 extra e-cigs in just one week...or Paul Ray is flat out lying to fit some sort of "agenda". And why wouldn't he say which school it was? I believe Occam's razor applies here.

IMHO, his claim is total bullshit. And I back that up with personal experience here. You see, one of my best friends is a police officer with TPD (Tampa Police Department). He works as an SRO (School Resource Officer) at a large public school here in Tampa, Florida...and NOT ONCE has he mentioned students having e-cigarettes, or needing to confiscate them. He tells me all the time about iPods and iPhones being stolen (very common), fights, arguments, and the occasional marijuana find, but never anything about e-cigs.

Another idiotic comment from Rep. Ray Paul...

"This is terrible stuff. They’re peddling stuff that they know absolutely will kill people,” Ray said. “This is an industry who kills their clientele."

Wrong. E-cigarettes do not kill people. But tobacco cigarettes do! Also, many of the products from your Big Pharma friends also kill people! But e-cigarettes most certainly do not kill people.

Dear Mr. Ray,

Methinks you should take a little time to do some actual research on e-cigarettes and nicotine. No doubt, you'll realize that it's not the nicotine in tobacco cigarettes that kills, it's the myriad of other poisonous chemicals in them that does...like all the harmful, deadly crap that's created from the COMBUSTION of tobacco cigarettes. Protip: E-cigs have NO combustion.

So please, do some research first, before proposing such idiotic bills - bills that would do much more harm than good. And remember, Google is your friend.

Dipshits In Public Office - Vote Them Out!

I honestly can't believe so many dipshits actually get elected into office. But hey, lying, bullshitting and making promises to unethical companies with vastly deep pockets goes a long way.


  1. Lo:. I still remember this law amendment like it was yesterday. They had no basis implementing the same taxes for e-cigarettes. To start it of, the high tax rates for tobacco and cigarette products was to cover up huge coverup expenses for medical bills associated to tobacco and smoking. Oh and screw those pharma medications..! Patches don't work, gums are distasteful and tiring to chew and analogs makes some food taste nasty! Oh and Chantix, you hit that one quite in the right spot - glad I didn't try it! lol. Electronic cigarettes - well now, that's the real deal!!!

    1. Agreed. It was was nonsensical bill right from the start. So glad it was shot down. :)

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